This spring, Mark Phillips, on a tour of regenerative projects in the northeast, was kind enough to stay in our area for a night and spend the day walking around our farm. In the afternoon after our tour, I had the honor of sitting down with Mark in the studio on top of Studio Hill and talking about our farm, regenerative agriculture, regenerative economics, Studio Hill’s goals for the future—but most importantly, how a shift to generational thinking leads to better stewardship of the planet.

Mark recorded our conversation and the good folks at the Upstream Podcast (iTunes | SoundCloud) polished it into this interview. My heartfelt thanks goes out to Mark and to Upstream for their hard work on behalf of the planet. Keep up the great work.

Be warned: It’s an hour long. I hope you enjoy.